Joe Rogan says Jordan Peterson should NOT be dead-naming trans star Elliot Page

Joe Rogan says Jordan Peterson should NOT be dead-naming trans star Elliot Page 2
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Joe Rogan called out conservative author and psychologist Dr Jordan Peterson in his most recent episode, after the psychologist disparaged transgender actor Elliot Page – and used his ‘dead name.’

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Peterson has been suspended from Twitter for the past few weeks after he tweeted that Page had his breasts removed by a ‘criminal physician’ and used his former name, Ellen – a practice referred to by transgender people as ‘dead-naming,’ which many consider offensive.

Twitter flagged Peterson’s tweet claiming it ‘violated the Twitter Rules on hateful conduct,’ and his daughter, Mikhaila, said her father would be off the platform until he deleted the tweet – something he does not seem keen to do.

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But on Tuesday’s episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the podcaster and his guest, actor Zachary Levi, said it was a shame that he was kicked off the platform over the issue, saying it is ‘not a thing to be getting offended about.’ 

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Controversial podcaster Joe Rogan called out conservative author Dr Jordan Peterson in his most recent episode after the psychologist disparaged transgender actor Elliot Page in a tweet

Rogan's guest, actor Zachary Levi, said the transgender issue is charged on both sides

Rogan’s guest, actor Zachary Levi, said the transgender issue is charged on both sides

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY1W41kaCOs

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The two were discussing Levi’s new book, Radical Love: Learning to Accept Yourself and Others, when Levi admitted he believed Petersen to be one of the world’s ‘deepest thinkers.’

‘I think one of he deepest thinkers that I’ve ever heard break down, like, human behavior, and I don’t know, just an understanding of all that stuff, and I think good wisdom along with it, is Jordan Peterson,’ the Shazam star said.

‘I think if he would be a person that I would trust – I think that guy has a lot of integrity – that it would be somebody good too.’

But, Levi said, ‘I also know Jordan has his own things that people have issues with.

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‘Like get over it,’ he continued. ‘Nobody’s perfect.’

That is when Rogan pointed out that Petersen is currently banned from Twitter over his comments about the Umbrella Academy star.

‘He’s kicked off Twitter right now cause he said something about Ellen Page – Elliot Page -[he] called her Ellen Page,’ Rogan noted. ‘I think that was the number one thing, the dead-naming.’

Levi then responded: ‘It’s sad, man, because again, it’s just like there’s a lot of fear and pain on all that. All the sides of that too.’ 

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At that point, Rogan brought up comedian Brian Simpson’s thoughts on the matter.

‘My friend Brian Simpson had a very good thing to say about that,’ Rogan intercedes. ‘He was like “I come to you for, like, heavy duty intellectual s***.”

‘He goes “Not for this,”‘ Rogan said. ‘Like this is not a thing to be getting offended about.’

Page first announced his transition in an Instagram post in December 2020. He is pictured here outside the Dolby Theater in March

Page first announced his transition in an Instagram post in December 2020. He is pictured here outside the Dolby Theater in March

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Peterson was suspended from Twitter after he tweeted that Elliot Page had his breasts removed by a 'criminal physician' and used his former name, Ellen - a practice referred to by transgender people as 'dead-naming,' which many consider offensive

Peterson was suspended from Twitter after he tweeted that Elliot Page had his breasts removed by a ‘criminal physician’ and used his former name, Ellen – a practice referred to by transgender people as ‘dead-naming,’ which many consider offensive

Levi then seems to try to defend the psychologist, saying: ‘It’s his Twitter, or was his Twitter anyway.’

‘But the thing is, that transgender thing riles people up, man,’ Rogan shot back. 

‘Like everybody’s in favor of everybody doing whatever they want to do, as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody until it gets to the gender – and then people start getting weird.

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‘They start thinking it’s a mistake,’ Rogan said. ‘They start thinking, “Why you doing that?” They start thinking all kinds of things.’

Page first announced his transition in an Instagram post in December 2020. 

‘Hi friends, I want to share with you that I am trans, my pronouns are he/they and my name is Elliot. I feel lucky to be writing this. To be here. To have arrived at this place in my life,’ he wrote.  

Peterson then tweeted about the transgender star on June 22, the same day the third season of the Netflix shot The Umbrella Academy was released.

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Netflix integrated Page’s transition into the show for the third season, changing his character’s name from Vanya to Viktor.

In his tweet, Peterson referred to Page as ‘The Umbrella Academy actor, who previously went by the name Ellen before announcing his transition in 2020.

‘Remember when pride was a sin?’ he wrote. ‘And Ellen Page just had her breasts removed by a criminal physician.’

The tweet was flagged by Twitter’s platform for violating its rules on hateful conduct.

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Peterson’s daughter, Mikhaila, then posted a screenshot of the notification on June 28, saying his account had been suspended, tagging Elon Musk and saying the site is ‘definitely not a free speech platform.’

She said her father will remain suspended from the site until he deletes the offending tweet. 

Peterson has since doubled down on his claims about Page, saying being suspended from Twitter was no big deal

Peterson has since doubled down on his claims about Page, saying being suspended from Twitter was no bigdeal

His daughter Mikhaila Peterson first tweeted that he was suspended from the platform on June 28, saying Twitter is 'definitely not a free speech platform at the moment'

His daughter Mikhaila Peterson first tweeted that he was suspended from the platform on June 28, saying Twitter is ‘definitely not a free speech platform at the moment’ 

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But Peterson has instead doubled down on the sentiment, saying on Friday he felt the need to speak up after Page posed on the cover of Esquire Magazine last month.

‘See, I would’ve left Ellen Page alone if she hadn’t been parading her new abs in a fashion magazine,’ Peterson told podcaster Kyle Kulinski on his Krystal Kyle & Friends show on Friday, as he reiterated claims that transgenderism is a fad.

‘How many kids do you think she convinced to convert, one? A Thousand?’ 

He also said on Friday that being suspended from Twitter is barely a punishment

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‘Well, I don’t know if it got me in trouble,’ he said of the tweet, ‘you know, I don’t think I’m in trouble, Twitter banned me, but I don’t consider that trouble.’

Peterson claimed last week he only spoke out about Page after he posed on the cover of Esquire Magazine last month (pictured)

Peterson claimed last week he only spoke out about Page after he posed on the cover of Esquire Magazine last month (pictured)

This isn’t the first time Jordan has come under fire for controversial tweets. 

Peterson briefly quit Twitter in May after saying a plus-size Sports Illustrated Swimsuit model was ‘not beautiful.’ 

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The cover of the magazine showed Yumi Nu, a 25-year-old curvy model, and the first Asian plus-size model to be featured in Sports Illustrated. 

‘Sorry. Not beautiful.  And no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that,’ Peterson wrote. 

After receiving backlash, Peterson claimed he deleted Twitter from his devices while his account remained active. It was the second time he had left the platform. 

Prior to leaving the platform in May, Peterson had accumulated a list of controversies dating back to 2016. 

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The latest in a long line of controversies: Inside Dr. Peterson’s past scandals

2016: Slammed proposed Canadian legislation that would ban discrimination based on ‘gender identity or gender expression’, claiming it would threaten free speech

2017: Claimed that ‘the idea of white privilege is absolutely reprehensible’ because ‘most people have all sorts of privilege’

2018: Told British TV network Channel 4 that men need to ‘grow the hell up’ and ‘adopt responsibility’ while discussing the crisis of masculinity. Also claimed that the gender pay gap was not ‘only due to sex’

2019: Cambridge University withdrew Peterson’s fellowship after facing furious backlash for announcing ten-part lecture series 

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2020: Peterson’s daughter Mikhaila revealed that he had been hospitalized in Russia after developing a severe dependence on anti-anxiety medication benzodiazepines. She claimed that he ‘nearly died several times… from what the medical system did to him in the West’

Late 2020: Staff at Penguin Random House Canada attempt to block the publication of his self-help book Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, slamming Peterson as an ‘icon of white supremacy and hate speech’

2021: Tells The Sunday Times that he had become suicidal as a result of his benzodiazepine dependence and shared that he had to be put in an induced coma while hospitalized in Russia

May 2022: Calls plus-size Sports Illustrated Swimsuit cover model ‘not beautiful,’ and further claiming ‘no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that.’  

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